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#4574 - 02/16/10 02:24 PM National Grammar Day
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It's almost here! March 4 is National Grammar Day.




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#4575 - 02/16/10 03:23 PM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: hidegoseek]
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#4576 - 02/16/10 03:40 PM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: CMNM(Vanna)]
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Does that go hand in hand with National Spelling Day. Perhaps it ties in with Yuzzzz Ur Spell Checker Day. TIC

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#4577 - 02/16/10 06:52 PM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: humboldt flier]
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I FAIL
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#4593 - 02/19/10 08:43 AM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: Enbay1]
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Can the decline in IQ scores be attributed to Google making us stupid?

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#4596 - 02/19/10 10:15 AM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: hidegoseek]
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Originally Posted By: hidegoseek

Can the decline in IQ scores be attributed to Google making us stupid?


Hey, that article is more than 1100 words long. Who has time to read the whole thing?!

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#4598 - 02/19/10 10:57 AM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: Nylimb]
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Originally Posted By: Nylimb
Hey, that article is more than 1100 words long. Who has time to read the whole thing?!
Probably just us "old guys."

And County employees. poke
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#4623 - 02/21/10 08:31 PM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: hidegoseek]
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poke!!!! I aint partis-pating in no here gramma day!
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#4636 - 02/22/10 07:40 PM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: Enbay1]
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OK, a Grammar pet peeve of mine....."My Bad" makes my hair stand on end!

Now that's a picture! woot


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#4637 - 02/22/10 08:41 PM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: CMNM(Vanna)]
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sooy, my bad!
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#4697 - 03/03/10 11:45 AM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: Enbay1]
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Piddlin’ Rules
  1. No sentence fragments.
  2. It behooves us to avoid archaisms.
  3. Also, avoid awkward or affected alliteration.
  4. Don't use no double negatives.
  5. If I’ve told you once, I’ve told you a thousand times, “Resist hyperbole!”
  6. Avoid commas, that are not necessary.
  7. Verbs has to agree with their subjects.
  8. Avoid trendy locutions that sound flaky.
  9. Writing carefully, dangling participles should not be used.
  10. Kill all exclamation points!!!
  11. Never use a long word when a diminutive one will do.
  12. Proofread carefully to see if you any words out.
  13. Take the bull by the hand and don't mix metaphors.
  14. Don’t verb nouns.
  15. Never, ever use repetitive redundancies.
  16. Last but not least, avoid clichés like the plague.
—William Safire (1929-2009), Pulitzer Prize-winner, wordguy, presidential speechifier and columnist
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#4698 - 03/03/10 12:47 PM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: hidegoseek]
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scratch

lol lol2 rotfl
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#4700 - 03/03/10 04:23 PM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: CMNM(Vanna)]
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The Exclamation Point!

The exclamation point is greatly overused!
One could even say it is frequently abused!
In advertising copy, it repeatedly resounds!
And in breathless prose, it literally abounds!
The poorer the writer, the more frequently the case!
The exclamation point, they readily embrace!
To give a little emphasis! To make a little point!
This punctuation mark they will appoint!
But, to make emphasis perfectly clear,
Good writers generally appear
to make little use of exclamations
and other such typographic affectations.

— Ed Truitt
Ed Truitt is a science writer at the Weizmann Institute of Science

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#4701 - 03/03/10 04:25 PM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: hidegoseek]
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Ode to the Comma


The female body part of punctuation,
So tiny, yet able to arouse such aggravation.
The comma slips in under the quotation,
Tells you when to pause for reflection,
Then plunge ahead to the period's conclusion.
Neglect it at your peril: accusations,
law suits, wars. Nations
fall. Pretend it doesn't exist at all? Risk condemnation.
Treat it right for absolution.
That's right, put it there: Yes, oh, yes . . . satisfaction.

—Stacey Harwood
Stacey Harwood is a policy analyst with the New York State Department of Public Service. She is a freelance writer and managing editor of The Best American Poetry blog.

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#4704 - 03/03/10 05:56 PM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: hidegoseek]
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aye aye aye!!! that was? such satire in such a small sentance! i aint saw no other poems, like that, EVA... well i got most em!!!
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#4705 - 03/03/10 05:56 PM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: Enbay1]
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thre and the miss spel'in and da cliche, and the proofreading!
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#4717 - 03/04/10 08:02 AM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: humboldt flier]
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You mean like this? Résumé
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#4722 - 03/04/10 08:12 AM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: humboldt flier]
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On a Mac, hold down the "option" key and press the letter "e." Then press the letter you want the diacritic over (in the case of résumé, press "e.")

I just learned that it's called an "acute accent."
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#4725 - 03/04/10 08:24 AM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: humboldt flier]
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Originally Posted By: humboldt flier
Well I will be jiggered rèsumè
Not to start a war or anything, but you used a grave, not an acute accent.

As Shakespeare once wrote, "résumé or rèsumè, that is the question." lol2
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#4726 - 03/04/10 08:42 AM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: hidegoseek]
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Sooooooo how does this bit of oooopsie happen ræsumæ???

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#4728 - 03/04/10 08:49 AM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: humboldt flier]
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Originally Posted By: humboldt flier
I can not seem to get my accent to flip
I think you used option-grave-e instead of option-e-e. (The grave key is the lowercase tilde key.)

I had to learn these tricks to type menus, like table d'hôte.
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#4729 - 03/04/10 09:03 AM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: humboldt flier]
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Originally Posted By: humboldt flier
Sooooooo how does this bit of oooopsie happen ræsumæ???
How did you do that? I usually use the glyph palette to insert funny characters.
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#4730 - 03/04/10 09:19 AM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: hidegoseek]
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Option key and apostrophe key ...

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#4731 - 03/04/10 09:32 AM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: humboldt flier]
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still can't get my accent to flip

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#4737 - 03/04/10 10:35 AM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: humboldt flier]
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Today is March 4, National Grammar Day!

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#4742 - 03/04/10 01:40 PM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: humboldt flier]
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Originally Posted By: humboldt flier
still can't get my accent to flip


I know that HGS can post things in this forum that most of us can't, since he's one of the administrators. For example, there were those upside-down letters a while back. So this is a test to see if these accent marks are available to the rest of us. This was done on an iMac; I don't know how to get these on a PC.

á é í ó ú Á É Í Ó Ú (option-E followed by a vowel)
à è ì ò ù À È Ì Ò Ù (option-` followed by a vowel)
ä ë ï ö ü Ä Ë Ï Ö Ü (option-U followed by a vowel)
â ê î ô û Â Ê Î Ô Û (option-I followed by a vowel)
ñ Ñ (option-N followed by N)


P.S.: Yes, it works.


Edited by Nylimb (03/04/10 01:41 PM)

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#4743 - 03/04/10 04:18 PM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: Nylimb]
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Originally Posted By: Nylimb
This was done on an iMac; I don't know how to get these on a PC.
On a PC I had to use ALT+####. For example:
  • ALT+0224—>à
  • ALT+0226—>â
  • ALT+0230—>æ
  • ALT+0231—>ç
  • ALT+0232—>è
  • ALT+0233—>é
  • ALT+0234—>ê
  • ALT+0235—>ë
  • ALT+0238—>î
  • ALT+0239—>ï
  • ALT+0244—>ô
  • ALT+0251—>û
  • ALT+0249—>ù
  • ALT+0156—>œ

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#4744 - 03/04/10 04:49 PM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: hidegoseek]
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Soooooooo is Grammar day Anglo centric or is it Amero-Anglo centric and thereby discriminatory in either case?

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#4745 - 03/04/10 05:09 PM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: humboldt flier]
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Well, English is the official language of many countries. The United States, however, does not have a national language, although 28 states do have English as their official language.
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#4753 - 03/04/10 05:44 PM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: humboldt flier]
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latin?æ œ∑´®†¥¨ˆøπ“‘«¡™£¢∞§¶•ªº–≠åß∂ƒ©˙∆˚¬…æΩ≈ç√∫˜µ≤≥ got em all
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#4754 - 03/04/10 05:44 PM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: Enbay1]
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darn this forum doesnt support some!
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#4757 - 03/04/10 06:32 PM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: Enbay1]
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" Englanders " seem to think that American English is foreign.

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#4759 - 03/04/10 06:39 PM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: humboldt flier]
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Didn't we settle that score back in 1776? usa
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#4760 - 03/04/10 06:43 PM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: hidegoseek]
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On a more serious note, Grammar Girl often elaborates on grammatical differences between America and the U.K.

For example, style guides in the U.S. dictate that quotation marks include most ending punctuation marks, like "this." The British, however, put them "inside".

Nylimb and I often wonder why.
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#4761 - 03/04/10 06:46 PM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: hidegoseek]
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vive la difference

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#4762 - 03/04/10 06:49 PM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: humboldt flier]
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Originally Posted By: humboldt flier
vive la difference

Shouldn't there be an acute accent in différence?
rotfl

sorry I couldn't help myself.
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#4763 - 03/04/10 06:55 PM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: hidegoseek]
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My accents are not very cute so I couldn't be acute. Chronic maybe, but not acute.

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#4764 - 03/04/10 07:02 PM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: humboldt flier]
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Originally Posted By: humboldt flier
My accents are not very cute so I couldn't be acute. Chronic maybe, but not acute.
Vanna thinks you're cute. grin
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#4765 - 03/04/10 07:06 PM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: humboldt flier]
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Urban dictionary vs Ebonics dictionary vs " A Real Dictionary " ... but ... but ... but.

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#4766 - 03/04/10 07:10 PM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: humboldt flier]
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urbandictionary.com.au >>>>> is dat Australian or Austrian ?






Edited by humboldt flier (03/04/10 07:11 PM)

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#4767 - 03/04/10 07:15 PM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: hidegoseek]
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Originally Posted By: hidegoseek
Originally Posted By: humboldt flier
My accents are not very cute so I couldn't be acute. Chronic maybe, but not acute.
Vanna thinks you're cute. grin


lol2 I was going to reply "That's cute" to his post but decided not to! lol2
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#4777 - 03/05/10 11:21 PM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: humboldt flier]
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my accents are obtuse
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#4785 - 03/06/10 09:06 AM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: Enbay1]
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My accents are from the eastern part of the continent

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#4795 - 03/07/10 08:45 PM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: humboldt flier]
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well that makes you special!
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#4797 - 03/07/10 10:20 PM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: Enbay1]
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Maybe / maybe not, however, somewhat erudite and an ability to use a dictionary from time time to time. Ziiiiiing

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#4819 - 03/08/10 11:04 PM Re: National Grammar Day [Re: humboldt flier]
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i have that and bad!!!!!
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